Subpage template testing and tweeks

[Chris Day]

For me [[NewYorkCity/Signed Article (John Smith)]] looks like a reasonable convention, even better than a subpage with the name in the title.

This looks better than just an authors name for a subpage.

If it was a problem, I'd propose to change slightly the name  and to turn the "slashed" titles into redirects. This is already the case for GNU/Linux and dev/null, and this seems to be harmless.

Unfortunately, this is a problem and redirects will be needed for all such pages.

[Chris Day]

I have been thinking a little more about the issue of whether to use sub-subpages or not. 

There is one advantage to having signed articles, and similar, on sub-subpages. It means that a specific header title can be placed automatically at the top of the page (see examples of signed articles, timelines and tables sub-subpages in the [[Test article]] cluster.

However, using sub-subpages means it is not possible to have the metadata stored on a subpage (such as ARTICLENAME/Metadata).  Instead, it must be stored in a template (Template:ARTICLENAME/Metadata).

So which do we deem more important? Having metadata on a subpage rather than a template or having customised headers.  At present I can't figure a way we can do both (although that does not mean it is not possible).

[Greg Woodhouse]

I have been thinking a little more about the issue of whether to use sub-subpages or not. 

There is one advantage to having signed articles, and similar, on sub-subpages. It means that a specific header title can be placed automatically at the top of the page (see examples of signed articles, timelines and tables sub-subpages in the [[Test article]] cluster.

However, using sub-subpages means it is not possible to have the metadata stored on a subpage (such as ARTICLENAME/Metadata).  Instead, it must be stored in a template (Template:ARTICLENAME/Metadata).

So which do we deem more important? Having metadata on a subpage rather than a template or having customised headers.  At present I can't figure a way we can do both (although that does not mean it is not possible).

Would it be reasonable to put signed articles in a separate namespace? Maybe they don't need to be party of the subpage system directly, but we can include a subpage linking to signed articles.

[Chris Day]

So which do we deem more important? Having metadata on a subpage rather than a template or having customised headers.  At present I can't figure a way we can do both (although that does not mean it is not possible).

Would it be reasonable to put signed articles in a separate namespace? Maybe they don't need to be party of the subpage system directly, but we can include a subpage linking to signed articles.

This would help a lot. We already have the subpage (Signed Articles) that represents a holding space for the links to the actual signed articles.

What about the timelines and tables.  I had a sense that people were hoping to use sub-subpages for those too?

[Robert_W_King]

I'm kinda working on a timeline template, but I'm having trouble with the formatting.  Work-in-progress.

[Chris Day]

For those in the dark, i have tried to clarify this problem at:

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Test_article/Signed_Articles#Notes_on_retrieving_info_from_the_metadata_page

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Test_article/Signed_Articles/Gamma_Epsilon#Notes_on_retrieving_info_from_the_metadata_page