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Author Topic: U.K. naming  (Read 5363 times)
Howard C. Berkowitz
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« on: February 07, 2009, 05:00:37 PM »

Would Eighth British Army or Eighth U.K. Army be more traditional? I tend toward the former, given British Army of the Rhine (BAOR).
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2009, 10:07:17 PM »

I think 'the tradition' is just 'Eighth Army'  Grin

We'd probly have to write Eighth Army (British) or (British Division)  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2009, 12:59:03 AM »

I've never heard of the UK Army. For example, Aldershot is always called the "Home of the British Army".
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 07:31:20 AM »

This is something of a nonsense problem that some had made a big issue last year. Just call it the 8th British division - I don't think anyone, anywhere, except maybe the most anally retentive would demand 8th UK division!
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 07:53:43 AM »

This is something of a nonsense problem that some had made a big issue last year. Just call it the 8th British division - I don't think anyone, anywhere, except maybe the most anally retentive would demand 8th UK division!

I agree with 8th British division, but I'd suggest that a common usage might well be 1st Division (U.K.) alongside 1st Division (U.S.).

On further research, 8th British Armoured Division seems to be the British usage. Long usage may make that an honorable exception. Military writers would tend, in disambiguating, to say 1st Armored Division (U.S.), 1st Tank Division (U.S.S.R.), 1st Armoured Division (U.K.).  While 4th Canadian Infantry Division was standard enough, U.K. vs British and American vs. U.S. would occasionally clash as naming conventions.
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 09:53:24 AM »

'Tis the British Army, the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy. And if you look at the Divisions and Brigades section of the British Army website, you'll find a fair few divisions marked with (UK).
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 10:19:31 AM »

'Tis the British Army, the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy. And if you look at the Divisions and Brigades section of the British Army website, you'll find a fair few divisions marked with (UK).

I still like naming a division "Hobart's Funnies".
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