Citizendium Forums
November 24, 2009, 11:32:57 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: POSTING RULES FOR MAIN CZ BOARDS: (1) The CZ Forums are Citizens-only (a "Citizen" is a Citizendium member). Non-Citizens may use only the "Non-member discussion" and "General help" boards, but still must register before posting (it's easy!). Non-Citizen posts elsewhere will be summarily deleted. (2) All must now use their own real names. To edit your displayed name, click on Profile > Account Related Settings. (3) Citizens must now link to their CZ user pages. To edit your signature, click on Profile > Forum Profile Information.
Click here to return to the wiki
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
Author Topic: Are images of book covers usable without permission?  (Read 3713 times)
Hayford Peirce
Administrator
Forum Regular
****
Posts: 1332



« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2008, 01:33:07 PM »

Congratulations for having a contract that said all rights revert to you if the book falls out of print.

I believe I read a few months ago that some major but obviously scumbag publisher actually tried to establish contracts that said they retained rights to the books even after they were out of print.  This elicited enormous howls of outrage (and lots of bad publicity) and they hastily backed off.  Traditionally, all books that fell out of print had their rights revert to the author.  With or without a contract, I believe.

But let's say that I'm a S.F. author who hopes to sell a novel per year to Tor. (Which was indeed my case.) By the time my 4th book has been published, my first book is almost certainly "out of print" and, as I think the contract says, two years have gone by since it went out of print.  Upon written request by me, I get the rights to that book back.

But by doing so, I would probably be thumbing Tor's sense of self-esteem right in the eye.  They would give me back the rights -- but, unless I was a Steven King-type author, they would almost certainly not bother to buy my 5th book.

So the situation could be more complicated than you might think.  Having known a fair number of writers over the years, I would say that almost *none* of them would try to get the rights back to the earlier books unless those are paperback, reprint rights.  Then it would be a very common case.  Jack Vance, say, might have written 40 hardback novels for Tor, which still retained all the hardback rights, but might have 6 different paperback companies releasing his reprints.  And he would keep regaining rights to those reprints as soon as possible after the reprint editions fell out of print.  People like Heinlein, say, and Vance, have had many different publishers for their reprints.  (And, I guess, the original hardback publishers are still sharing in the sales to the reprint houses.
Logged

Aleta Curry
Forum Regular
****
Posts: 1105


« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2008, 03:01:40 PM »

...

5.) I just learned a few days ago that Wildside is no longer selling enough of my books to make it worth the small annual fee they pay to someone (the publisher in Tennessee, I guess) to keep my books available.  So they will be removing them from their catalog.  Which, I suppose, means that they will vanish from Amazon, although I myself will still be able to order copies directly from Wildside.
...

Must've been just, just, since I just bought a couple.
Logged

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/User:Aleta_Curry

Lady Astor, to Winston Churchill:  Sir, if you were my husband, I'd put poison in your tea!

Churchill:  Madam, if I were your husband, I'd drink it!
Hayford Peirce
Administrator
Forum Regular
****
Posts: 1332



« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2008, 03:15:55 PM »

Thanks for the encouragement!  I'll email my publisher and tell him that I know that *some* are being sold!
Logged

Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.7 | SMF © 2006-2008, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!