green instead of red.. good, but a problem

[Chunbum Park]

it really fits with the new Citizendium skin. I like it.

However, all the non-existent links in the subpage bar are still red. Could someone fix that?

[Larry Sanger]

You're right.  That's bizarre.  Well, Chris would be the man to address that...

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

A human factors note: disorders of color perception most often affect red and green. It may be an inability to tell the two apart, or even to tell the difference between black and red/green.  Since blue is taken, perhaps a purple or dark orange?

[Chris Day]

You're right.  That's bizarre.  Well, Chris would be the man to address that...

I had to code that color red in the tabs.  I can easily make it green too, or any color.

It may be an inability to tell the two apart, or even to tell the difference between black and red/green. 

Clearly red and green cannot be distinguished although that is not a problm here but I did not realise that black was in the equation too. Adjusting the green colors saturation might be all that is needed.

[Chunbum Park]

is it that green doesn't appear well on the subpage bar?

still the inconsistency is confusing. there must be a different color that appears well on the subpage bar.

[Chris Day]

is it that green doesn't appear well on the subpage bar?

No, my only reason was to mimic the red link for a page that did not exist. Since it was an external link to a pre-load page if I did not code it red it would appear blue (all external links do).  It may well be possible that the green does not look good too, but that was not my reason for coding it to the red color.

[Larry Sanger]

OK, no problem here...once we've made a final decision as to the link color in the main article, we should use the same color for links to blank pages in the subpage template, too.

[Chris Day]

we should use the same color for links to blank pages in the subpage template, too.

I'll wait until we settle on a final color to make the change.

[Anthony.Sebastian]

Anything, almost, but 'red'.  Too distracting.  Interrupts the easy flow of reading.  Tempts me to avoid putting in empty links -- counterproductive.

[Derek Harkness]

I'd like to make everyone aware that you can set the links to whatever colour you personally like in very simple operation.

1. Go to http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Special:Mypage/Pinkwich5.css and edit the page.

2. Copy the code below into your Pinkwich5.css page.

Code:

a.new { color:#660000; }

3. Change the colour value, that's the #660000 bit, in the code to the tone and shade you prefer.

4. Save the page

5. Do a hard reboot.

I put the last one in bold as you won't see any change if you don't do that. To do a hard reboot:

• Mozilla / Firefox / Safari: hold down Shift while clicking Reload, or press Ctrl-Shift-R (Cmd-Shift-R on Apple Mac);
• IE: hold Ctrl while clicking Refresh, or press Ctrl-F5;
• Konqueror:: Simply click the Reload button, or press F5;
• Opera: You may need to completely clear their cache in Tools→Preferences.

You can put any css code you like on that page and it will only affect yourself. Other users will continue with the defaults.

[Larry Sanger]

Anything, almost, but 'red'.  Too distracting.  Interrupts the easy flow of reading.  Tempts me to avoid putting in empty links -- counterproductive.

Right.  So, both red and green are out.  We'll try blue-green next...no one has objected to that yet, although someone said that it might be too similar to blue, but I think it's a nice, inviting enough color that we should try it.

[Martin Baldwin-Edwards]

Blue-green is exactly the wrong colour because it cannot be distinguished from blue properly. There are standard rules about colour contrasts, so there is no need to invent the wheel again with this.

[Matt Innis]

Right.  So, both red and green are out.  We'll try blue-green next...no one has objected to that yet, although someone said that it might be too similar to blue, but I think it's a nice, inviting enough color that we should try it.

The problem with 6% of men is that they see the green as more of a blue.  I'm not totally certain, but I think blue-green will end up looking blue to them.

[Larry Sanger]

Blue-green is exactly the wrong colour because it cannot be distinguished from blue properly. There are standard rules about colour contrasts, so there is no need to invent the wheel again with this.

OK then--no blue-green.  Of course there are rules about color contrasts, but there is no specific reason to apply those rules in this case.

Vermilion is out, because it looks too much like red, and we are not using anything that looks like red, because red means "stop."  Sorry, Martin.  If you can nix my color, I can nix yours.   

Next, we'll try brown, orange, and tan...

I wish we could expend this much energy actually creating things.  

[Anthony.Sebastian]

I tried 'LightSlateGray' (#778899).  It shows up nicely, and it complements the blue used for non-empty-links.  It is not distracting any more than blue is, it's clearly distinguished from blue.  We can put this note at the top of each page (or in the article banner):

::''Note: Text in font-color <b><font color=#0000FF>blue</font></b> links to articles in Citizendium; text in font-color <font color=#778899>LightSlateGray</font> links to articles not yet started (authors/editors encouraged to initiate such articles)''

See:  http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Hippocrates