Citizendium mail server blocking several servers

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

I've tried to send to Constables@citizendium.org from my own domain, which is hosted at pair.com, and from hotmail. In both cases, Citizendium blocked mail acceptance based on blackhole.securitysage.com blacklisting. I won't argue that Hotmail may be in league with the Dark Side of the Force, but Pair.com is a perfectly legitimate hosting company.  Methinks there might be an overly aggresive blacklist?

I'm trying to get euthanasia for my military workgroup status box on my user page, which is beyond recognition ad I should start over.


http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/User:Howard_C._Berkowitz

[Robert_W_King]

All I can say is it looks like something has gone horribly awry.

[Martin Baldwin-Edwards]

It is very common for large ISPs to be blocked, especially because of dynamic IPs. This happens to me all the time. For some email accounts I am obliged to send through the ISP i access for adsl, but for two accounts I can access the actual server and escape being blocked at all the UN addresses etc.

So, I suppose from hotmail you use their server: I actually ban all email arriving from hotmail as it is a high % of spammail.

You can check the [banned] status of your IP address, if that is the problem, here:

http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/is-my-ip-address-blacklisted

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

Unfortunately, while I don't have complete block messages, it appears that Citizendium's SMTP server is not rejecting my dynamic address in Comcast space, but the SMTP mail relay server, in static space, at pair.com. This is not an open relay, but uses POP3-before-SMTP authentication.

After many years in the ISP business, this sounds like an overly aggressive blacklist, not the sending server. Citizendium's server is rejecting my mail under two different accounts, from two different domains, in two different static address spaces (Pair.com and Hotmail/Microsoft). I should not be getting blacklisted in both places unless the blacklist source is severely clueless.

The Curse of the North American Network Operators' Group seems appropriate for the source of the blacklist: "You have no clue. You could not get a clue if you stripped naked, smeared yourself with clue musk, and hurled yourself into a field of horny clues during clue mating season."

[David E. Volk]

The easy answer is that all such groups like Constables should have a User:Constables page, at which any CZ user can click on the "Email this user" link to send an email to that group. We could easily make [[User:Chemistry]], [[User:Physics]], and the like, for this very purpose.

Everytime I email a large group, from my university email account, it always needs to go through a moderator.  The above mentioned route would eliminate this time wasted by moderators as well.

Who do we need to talk to to make this happen?

[Martin Baldwin-Edwards]

The easy answer is that all such groups like Constables should have a User:Constables page, at which any CZ user can click on the "Email this user" link to send an email to that group. We could easily make [[User:Chemistry]], [[User:Physics]], and the like, for this very purpose.

Everytime I email a large group, from my university email account, it always needs to go through a moderator.  The above mentioned route would eliminate this time wasted by moderators as well.

Who do we need to talk to to make this happen?

Larry

[David E. Volk]

I have emailed my solution to Larry.  Thanks Martin